Big Bubba's Big Mistake of the Day
There were actually two silly stories today. Leave it to ABC to out silly Matt Drudge. After all they have been in the silly business for many, many more years than Drudge.
Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged
President Bush Teleconference With U.S. Troops Was Choreographed to Match His Goals for Iraq War
By DEB RIECHMANN Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON Oct 13, 2005 — It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.
Why do these ABC hack slugs assume that we are as brain dead as they are? This story is not only the silliest story I have read today, and it is quite possibly the silliest that I have read so far this year. Do they really think that a cross continents video teleconference is going to take place without the participants being briefed on procedures, protocols and administrative details? Scott McClellan had to explain the process to reporters. Catch the irony? Slugs sitting there with looks of inquisitive wonder on their collective faces pretending not to understand the problems of cross continent video conferencing while McClellan tries to explain it to them. Wait a minute. Isn't that what reporters do sometimes? They have trouble understanding what they do? You guys! You wild and crazy guys!
I wonder what this story would have looked like if President Bush had come up with some good old fashioned pseudo intellectual progressive liberal demoracist angst type of questions. Why do you hate me? Why are you children fighting my war? Do you have any idea how much money Dick is making off this war? Why did the Supreme Court have to make me President? They could have finished off the video conference with a rousing sing along of old favorites like Koom-by-ya, Michael Row the Boat Ashore and finish up with Give Peace a Chance.
Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged
President Bush Teleconference With U.S. Troops Was Choreographed to Match His Goals for Iraq War
By DEB RIECHMANN Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON Oct 13, 2005 — It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.
Why do these ABC hack slugs assume that we are as brain dead as they are? This story is not only the silliest story I have read today, and it is quite possibly the silliest that I have read so far this year. Do they really think that a cross continents video teleconference is going to take place without the participants being briefed on procedures, protocols and administrative details? Scott McClellan had to explain the process to reporters. Catch the irony? Slugs sitting there with looks of inquisitive wonder on their collective faces pretending not to understand the problems of cross continent video conferencing while McClellan tries to explain it to them. Wait a minute. Isn't that what reporters do sometimes? They have trouble understanding what they do? You guys! You wild and crazy guys!
I wonder what this story would have looked like if President Bush had come up with some good old fashioned pseudo intellectual progressive liberal demoracist angst type of questions. Why do you hate me? Why are you children fighting my war? Do you have any idea how much money Dick is making off this war? Why did the Supreme Court have to make me President? They could have finished off the video conference with a rousing sing along of old favorites like Koom-by-ya, Michael Row the Boat Ashore and finish up with Give Peace a Chance.
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22 Comments:
I think it's time for all News Reporters to come totally clean with the American public. Every single evenning, the folks at ABC news "script" the telecast. Every single day, the NY Times edits and scripts what will appear in the paper that day. It all just doesn't happen as spontaneously and serendipitously as the actions and reactions of an episode of Desparate Housewives appears to be.
-FJ
...and the left has just been soooo supportive of the Iraqi people and has done everything within their power to prevent further bloodshed and discourage terrorism. NOT!!!!
We should start reading a roll-call of the dead Iraqi innocent victims of terrorist bombings every night on PBS right after they read the names of American's who died each day. Perhaps THEN the American people would see what lies at the OTHER end of that scale and stop listening to the crybaby left.
-FJ
mr. ducky,
Committed to tearing down Maggie's Pa and replacing him with Maggie's Ma since birth.
-FJ
I don't wanna work for Maggie's ma at all.
No, I don't wanna work for Maggie's ma at all.
Well, she drop her kids off in the trash for kicks.
Her bedroom living
It is made out of tricks.
The KGB Guard lines up at her door.
Ah, I don't wanna work for Maggie's ma at all.
Mr. Ducky, have you picked up anything on your tinfoil hat today about Rove's testimony?
"...and the left has just been soooo supportive of the Iraqi people and has done everything within their power to prevent further bloodshed and discourage terrorism. NOT!!!!"
Well, let's see, if we hadn't gone to Iraq, which is what the sane people advocated, there's be a whole lot less people dead, wouldn't there? Yeah, I guess we've been--demonstrably, as opposed to "figuratively"--a HELL of a lot more "supportive" than you. LOL!
By the same token, maybe Cheney's option wouldn't have climbed $10 mil.
Oh, but that Saddam was sure a threat to the American people--not of course in the days when Rumsfeld's tongue was up his ass for his oil--but 'specially when Saddam and his towelhead pals flew them planes into them buildins. But we showed 'em good, didn't we? The world sees we still fight, and that's good enough.
Don't feel bad, farmer. Any day now, democracy will magically perform miracles over there. Until that day we'll have to content ourselves that our military has a damn good long-term training base.
Norm, this Cheney ten million dollars thingy keeps popping up on this blog. I googled it without any current news results. I am handicapped because I do not have the special Google Tinfoil Hat Platinum Edition, like you and the Duck, so I may have missed it. I am pretty sure that with known pseudo intellectual progressive liberal demoracists in charge of Google such news would not be overlooked. Or, perhaps this is very, very old "news" that only the tinfoil hat brigades are keeping alive. Please help out, Norm, I must have missed something.
"I even felt a little bad for Bush."
Awwww, Mr. Ducky, that is just oh so special. But, don't fret for the President, Duckins. President Bush will remain as our President until 2008.
I am following the story about selection of President Bush's Library site. SMU and Baylor University are on the short list. Either one would be the perfect site. I know how disturbing the Godless would find the selection of either choice.
Am I the only one to notice that flyover country is loaded with Presidential Libraries? This is going to be the third one just in The Great State of Texas.
I bet the Duck can't figure out why political giants like Tanker Dukakis, Hanoi John, Teddy the Bridge Jumper never made it. A real puzzle, eh, Duck?
norm,
Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Then, with your permission, we did....
I reiterate... then, with YOUR permission, we did...
...and then the left went AWOL. Bush lied to us... Bush lied to us.
W-a-a-a-h-h-h
And as the Left stays AWOL and lends hope of imminent American withdrawl to the Iraqi "insurgents", hundreds of innocent Iraqi's die daily...
...but, but, but... Bush Lied....
In WWI, Wilson lied. In WWII, Roosevelt lied. In Vietnam, Kennedy lied. Democrats got us into all three.
...meanwhile, Iraqi's continue to die.
W-a-a-a-h-h-h-h.
And you call yourselves "progressive". LOL!
-FJ
This talk about scripted made me think about what Texas Aggies in Iraq do when they have time on their hands. Why they script and produce their own music video, of course.
Anyone who sends me their e-mail address will receive their very own copy to view and cherish. I just sent it to samwich. Perhaps he will favor us with a review.
The worth of the "promises" of "Progressives"...
When World War I began in August of 1914, Woodrow Wilson was continuing the spirit of Progressive Reform enunciated in his First Inaugural Address. Wilson's Secretary of State, William Jennings Bryan, took a firm position against any American involvement in this WAR TO END ALL WARS but events ineluctably pulled the United States ever closer to entering the conflict in spite of considerable opposition. Wilson's Second Inaugural Address illustrated to what degree his and the country's concerns had changed, foreshadowing his Declaration War on April 2, 1917. Wilson, who in his narrow victory in 1916 had promised to keep us out of war was soon promoting another slogan that we were going to Europe "TO MAKE THE WORLD SAFE FOR DEMOCRACY."
Sounds like GW Bush is more of a Progressive than normy.
Wilson lied, Americans died. Wilson lied, Americans died. Wilson lied, Americans died.
-FJ
gee, BB, do you think that our entry into the war with Iraq was "scripted"??? How about the Vietnam War and Gulf of Tonkin "incident"??? Bay of Pigs Invasion???
Those Downing Street Memo's sure hint at "scripts" being written...
ooops, I forgot what I was going to say next...
"Line please"
-FJ
"You still here bullshit about the "supriority of our system" which never takes into account our benefit from everyone else's being destroyed."
Lucky for American "superiority" big, ol' giant brain thinkers like the Duck were not part of the equation.
Mr. Ducky, I don't belong to the VFW and you don't belong to MENSA. Next.
I'm afraid your right mr. ducky. Stupidity is our condition.
But YOU claim that it is the result of our "specific" cynical "system".
But is it our specific "system" that's so cynical? Or each of us individually? For in the greater scheme of things, there is no American "system" but a few words on a few pieces of paper.
But as individuals, we DEFINITELY ARE cynical. For as life forms, our REAL program will always be "will to power".
And contrary to what you might wish were true, that the system and/or human nature could be changed, I'm here to tell you that it can't. Oh yes, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can never fool ALL of the people ALL of the time.
And so we continually "regress towards the mean". Now you can take take that as mean (average) or MEAN (nasty), I don't care which. Because the implications inherent in the language are clear.
-FJ
btw - Do you hate anything mr. ducky? What kind of pathetic specimen are you?
-FJ
fyi mr ducky,
The left side of your brain is dominant in looking out after YOU. The right side of your brain is dominant and concerned with how you fit in with "others". Now if you want us to always think of "others" and NOT ourselves, you better get out a scalpel. Lobotomies for EVERYBODY!
That's what it takes to live in YOUR "real" world mr. ducky. Just call me a cynic.
-FJ
Diogenes to Alexander... "Get out of my sunlight!"
Alexander to World... "If I could be anyone in the world other than who I am, I would choose to be Diogenes!"
The Paradox of the Left...
America is this terrible evil place, where they oppress minorities, are openly racist, hate working people, and are bent on world domination.
...but when we invaded Iraq we destroyed our reputation for "goodness" in the eyes of the world...
Say what, Willis?
-FJ
Ahem. It's "Watchoo talkin' bout, Willis?"
Easy big fella. I thought the Iraq adventure was a bad idea. There were better options. If I'm not mistaken, you (fj) thought it was a bad idea--haven't I read you say that? So, was it the worst idea I'd ever heard? Not really. I'd been familiar with the so-called "neocons" for a while and they had some good points. Still do. Doing absolutely nothing would have been the worst idea. That's not what I advocated.
So publically, for the sake of the troops, I'm all for accomplishing the mission. Of course this makes my fellow liberal pals irritated at bbqs. I kind of enjoy that. But between us, I'm-a call ya on it. I don't need to shake my pompoms here at Bubba's house.
pre-Iraq-D-day, I admit to being an "against". But at the same time, I hadn't tried to assess the "up" side of invasion very hard. Perhaps that is evidence that I'm NOT a Straussian. And believe me normy, there were no better "options". None that would have resulted in a "safer" America, anyways.
If there were ANY legitimate reasons to go in, it was to enforce the '91 peace treaty. Regime change could have been a limited part of that. But state building, nyet. I woulda sacked the clown and a few of his grossest compadres, looked for weapons, told the generals and people to mind the store and toe the line, freed any Kuwaiti's I found, grabbed some Kuwaiti reparations dough, then left. All on a strict schedule.
Millions of Iraqi's would have probably subsequently died as a result as the country then collapsed into Civil War. America would have been left semi-vulnerable to future terrorist reprisals. But the rest of the world would have seen this as a warning, that they could only push us so far. And THAT would have been a good thing.
Bush is trying to be compassionate. He's trying hard to avoid needless deaths. But if this constitution vote fails tomorrow, I suspect that compassion is going to give way to violence, and the result will now be "planned" violence on a much larger scale.
C'est la vie. We couldn't maintain no-fly's forever. Bush I made a BIG (compassionate) mistake in NOT finishing the job in '91 and ruthlessly CRUSHING the regime.
Wars are not compassionate places. Your enemies have to be defeated and REALLY NEED peace and afterwards, a clean slate. Otherwise... insurgency.
...and Clintoon 'wisely' let Bush I's mistake to fester and boil. By not CONSISTENTLY enforcing the '91 treaty provisions, he showed weakness that made Saddam "bolder". He ducked his responsibility as "America's President" to play "America's DEMOCRATIC President".
A lesson for America. Wars are not appropriate places for excessive displays of moral "compassion".
and lesson #2, don't put a war off for tomorrow, that you can fight and finish today.
and lesson #3, for the rest of the world.... America looks out after American interests. It is YOUR responsibility to look after your own. Got it?
and finally, I have confidence that our Straussian friends have worked out and gamed ALL the scenarios and are prepared for ANY eventuality that might arise tomorrow. Whether W. decides to tone 'em down and make them more compassionate, I cannot say. But then again, I do not envy the grave responsibilities with which HE is faced. And so I support him, in ANY decision he might make.
-FJ
Ducky, you're right about objectives, and my tin foil hat tells me we're basically going to try to find the best face-saving way to get out of Iraq that we can.
I'm not a "Bush lied, people died" guy. They definitely oversold the WMDs but if you look at Bush's speeches he did make a larger case.
FJ, why not have a base of operation in Afghanistan rather than Iraq? Why not threaten terror-sponsoring regimes from there? Send out special ops to any terrorist camp and take the international heat that way? You get your "terrorist flypaper," you save your nation building, you blunt (to some extent) your critics of "imperial ambition," and you get to show the world that the U.S. does not screw around.
The cost/benefit of Iraq does not look worth it. The opportunism vs. defensive necessity scale seems to tip too near the former. However, what's done is done and history will tell which was which.
The problem in discussing resounding defeat of the enemy, is identifying the enemy. I'm no tactician but waiting until he's shooting at you doesn't seem like a recipe for success.
And whoa, samwich, I don't know if I have the legs to jump to your conclusions buddy!
Mr. Ducky, Big Bubba never ceases to be amazed at your insider knowledge about, not just our government, but even the Saudis, Iraqis, Afghanis, etc. How does that happen? I never see you give us a citation. Is it some type of tinfoil hat anomoly where you are receiving insider mots de code not normally available to the sane?
norm,
Iraq has been a problem for America since '91. How long should/could America maintain no-fly zones and sanctions (failing as oil for food showed) so that Saddam's natural enemies wouldn't get slaughtered. We kept up THAT shield for twelve years and decided it was time to "close the books" and bring it all to a head. We gave those natural enemies the opportunity to remake their country. If they fail to do so, it's on them.
You seem to think that Bush had better options than invading Iraq. Perhaps you could share them with us. Are you arguing we should have just abandoned pre-invasion Iraq by unilaterally pulling out? What mesage would that have sent to terrorists, Saddam, and the world? Or are you saying we should have maintained the status quo no-fly's and sanctions indefinitely?
America will be pulling out of Iraq just as soon as it can. Perhaps those "regular" forces in Iraq will follow the plan you propose and get transferred to Afghanistan. We'll just have to wait and see what Bush and the Straussians have got up their sleeves.
-FJ
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