Let's Villify Jerry Falwell
No, not me silly gooses. Big Bubba is of the evangelical persuasion and likes Jerry Falwell. Do I totally agree with everything that he has to say? No, do I have to agree with everything? If you look at the sidebar, you will see a link to a Falwell article, "Civil unions initiate new slippery slope."
When I read the article I specifically looked for any statement that could be construed as radical or fanatical. I believe that almost anyone of good faith with a Judeo-Christian background would agree with what he wrote. Notice I said almost anyone. It is a sad fact of our modern world that there are some weird Jews and Christians floating around out there with some rather strange interpretations of what the Good Book has to say.
Another sad fact about our modern world is the all or nothing mentality of today's defective intellectuals. This mentality crosses all borders and boundaries of religious, political and social groups. Their ridiculous premise is that "I believe...." ***Big Bubba takes a break to listen to Jim Belushi lead Cubbie fans singing "Take me out to the ball game."*** OK, the premise is "I believe in 99.8% of what the candidate believes in, but..........." Here's a demoracist example, "I'm with Hanoi John 99.8% of the time, but, since he doesn't want to send Republicans to labor reeducation camps I am not going to vote." Don't laugh Republicans because there are those who say, "I mostly agree with W, but, I can't vote for him because he refuses to drop a H-bomb on the California heathens." When did all this start? I thought compromise was the very essence of politics. I have yet to vote for anyone who I agreed with 100%.
Falwell's article makes sense to me. What do you think?
When I read the article I specifically looked for any statement that could be construed as radical or fanatical. I believe that almost anyone of good faith with a Judeo-Christian background would agree with what he wrote. Notice I said almost anyone. It is a sad fact of our modern world that there are some weird Jews and Christians floating around out there with some rather strange interpretations of what the Good Book has to say.
Another sad fact about our modern world is the all or nothing mentality of today's defective intellectuals. This mentality crosses all borders and boundaries of religious, political and social groups. Their ridiculous premise is that "I believe...." ***Big Bubba takes a break to listen to Jim Belushi lead Cubbie fans singing "Take me out to the ball game."*** OK, the premise is "I believe in 99.8% of what the candidate believes in, but..........." Here's a demoracist example, "I'm with Hanoi John 99.8% of the time, but, since he doesn't want to send Republicans to labor reeducation camps I am not going to vote." Don't laugh Republicans because there are those who say, "I mostly agree with W, but, I can't vote for him because he refuses to drop a H-bomb on the California heathens." When did all this start? I thought compromise was the very essence of politics. I have yet to vote for anyone who I agreed with 100%.
Falwell's article makes sense to me. What do you think?
41 Comments:
Bubba, Bubba, Bubba, compromise can be a wonderfully productive cooperative effort.
But, but, but when the one who is right compromises with those who are wrong the best gets dragged down and becomes garbage.
Good luck on your Blog.
Samwich
Bubba Samwitch made it to the blog and I left your adress with Neptune. I do not agree with Falwell much but I do not see the paranoid bashing of him in such places as the Chemist. You will be outnumbered about 50 to one.
I saw your visit to AC Patriot . I am still laughing. You are building a fan base.
Falwell makes perfect sense to me. The gay lobby would have us believe that the government has no business sticking its' nose into people's bedrooms... and then they drag their bedroom's into the people's public commons, schoolyards, and court system, throw things into general disarray, and start whining about non-enforcement of their new-found rights and suing people left and right.
I was reading in the Washington Times this morning that the Massachusetts Democrats are now "coming out" bigtime in favor of gay marriages (not just civil unions) and are planning on making a huge issue out of it shortly.
As Plato says in his "Statesman" there are basically two kinds of people that comprise the vast majority of citizens, each with it's own strengths and weaknesses (note: the attained "truth" referred to below is- an understanding of what is "just" and "good")...
"STRANGER: The courageous soul when attaining this truth becomes civilized, and rendered more capable of partaking of justice; but when not partaking,
is inclined to brutality. Is not that true?
YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly.
STRANGER: And again, the peaceful and orderly nature, if sharing in these opinions, becomes temperate and wise, as far as this may be in a State, but if not, deservedly obtains the ignominious name of silliness.
YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true."
I say the left and the intellectuals have degenerated into "silliness", and it's time to drag them back into the light kicking and screaming. The left no longer shares the truth of what is "just" and "good"... and so they villify Falwell and try and convince us that it is Falwell who is out of step.
-FJ
Bubba, I almost always totally disagree with Jerry Falwell on every subject except that Jesus is the Christ, the Savior and Reedeemer of all the world.
So my credentials established as "not a Falwell supporter" I do agree that civil unions have created a new slippery slope that will prove to be another "cash cow" for America's Contention Monger for Profit Parasite Lawyer Association.
I also submit that if judges were required to obey the US Constitution or go to prison for criminal neglegence, lawyers would be broke.
Mr Falwell, I am in your corner on this one. Marriage was ordained by God. It is now regulated by the atheist state.
Samwich
And one last thing...Bubba's right that some sort of compromise is needed, for left and right need to somehow find common ground as to precisely "what" is both the "honorable" and the "good".
Conclusion of Plato, "Statesman":
"STRANGER: It was of these bonds I said that there would be no difficulty in creating them, if only both classes originally held the same opinion about the honourable and good;--indeed, in this single work, the whole
process of royal weaving is comprised--never to allow temperate natures to be separated from the brave, but to weave them together, like the warp and the woof, by common sentiments and honours and reputation, and by the giving of pledges to one another; and out of them forming one smooth and even web, to entrust to them the offices of State.
YOUNG SOCRATES: How do you mean?
STRANGER: Where one officer only is needed, you must choose a ruler who has both these qualities--when many, you must mingle some of each, for the temperate ruler is very careful and just and safe, but is wanting in thoroughness and go.
YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly, that is very true.
STRANGER: The character of the courageous, on the other hand, falls short of the former in justice and caution, but has the power of action in a remarkable degree, and where either of these two qualities is wanting, there cities cannot altogether prosper either in their public or private
life.
YOUNG SOCRATES: Certainly they cannot.
STRANGER: This then we declare to be the completion of the web of
political action, which is created by a direct intertexture of the brave and temperate natures, whenever the royal science has drawn the two minds into communion with one another by unanimity and friendship, and having perfected the noblest and best of all the webs which political life admits,
and enfolding therein all other inhabitants of cities, whether slaves or freemen, binds them in one fabric and governs and presides over them, and, in so far as to be happy is vouchsafed to a city, in no particular fails to
secure their happiness.
YOUNG SOCRATES: Your picture, Stranger, of the king and statesman, no less than of the Sophist, is quite perfect."
The Roman Republic was founded by the courageous Romulus... but his rule was followed by that of the temperate Numa, who gave the Romans religion. And so Rome was well fitted to survive in environments of both war and peace.
But our American "adversarial" political system does little to weave harmony between the "warp" and "woof" classes of citizenry. And the leaders we choose usually belong to either one class, or the other.
-FJ
Samwich, when I spoke of compromise I did not have in mind the compromise of "right" and "wrong." There is a broad spectrum of belief about the abortion issue, for example. I believe that the basics of the abortion issue are that it is morally wrong and is a sin within the context of our Judeo-Christian belief system. That being said what about rape, incest and the health of the mother? Absolutely no abortion, or will there be exceptions?
What if there is a Presidential race where in the primaries your party has four credible candidates who are all pro-choice? No, you can't switch parties because I now declare that the other party has three credible candidates and they are all pro-choice. Personally I don't believe that not voting for anyone is an option.
In this modern day and age I think that the best you can hope for is a candidate whose views (we will think of abortion for our example) are close to your views. Voting for a person who doesn't match your views does not change them. Sometimes a candidate is forced to change their views to conform to the will of those who elected and supported them.
We cannot crawl into our own personal spider hole when things are not going our way with the hope that we can emerge later and things will be better. We have to remain aboveground and work for what we believe in.
Hey, lunatic, I put my NRA-ILA news in the sidebar especially for you and you don't go off on one of your rants? Whats up with that?
Beakerkin, You don't have to agree with much of what Falwell says. But, he says things, like this article, that are 100% in conformity with what you believe as a Jew. Not surprising since what he wrote is based 100% on original Jewish thought. There's a reason why I keep hammering the phrase "Judeo-Christian." It is a commonality of fundamental beliefs that should unite us. Does that make Jews fundamentalists? We do need to be united to preserve the greatest example in the Universe of what the goodness of Judeo-Christian beliefs can do in this world.
Big Bubba , I do agree with Falwell
on a range of subjects. Remember I
do not describe myself as a Conservative. I am a Rudy Republican and a social moderate.
Yet I do not understand the vilification of Falwell and Robertson by the left. The religous
Conservatives are not seditous unlike the left.
Remember on places like the Chemist
it may get nasty at times .Defending Falwell there will
set those idiots off like piranah.
Farmer John,
On silliness. My original attraction to FPM was exactly that, silliness. I noticed that every Thursday the same people were making the same Olive Oyl comments and it didn’t seem like they had even read the article. I often would go straight to the comments and see how long I could play without even reading the article myself. What is it about really good satirists who drive people out of their minds? Obviously with most pseudo intellectual, progressive liberal, demoracists that would be a very short drive indeed. Of course one need not be a Coulter style satirist to draw out the silliness. Practically every anti Swiftie thought was dripping with silliness. Talk about the meaning of candidates’ military service when they enter politics - silly. The state of social security - silly. Do these people think that their target audience is so silly that the sillier the premises of the politicians the more likely they will attract a base? Where does this silliness come from? I think from a total disconnect of intellectual logic and reasoning.
Warp, weave and leaders. Hopefully the premise that the right leader will rise for the right times will be operative. Personally I think given the current political climate the chances are about the same as a million dollar Kentucky Derby Superfecta. Hey, there was a million dollar superfecta. Maybe there is some hope for the premise.
Think about this scenario. What would Presidential election politics have been like if 9-11 would have occurred before the election. Now there’s a chilling thought for you. Would the right man have been elected given the times? I can only imagine the silliness that such an election would have generated. One thing about our peculiar brand of political silliness. The doctrine of political correctness has taken it to unimaginable heights.
Note: I confess it was almost a million dollar superfecta, but who is counting?
BB,
On silliness. I think that Plato was basically right, but that what we perceive as "silliness" is really them being perfectly honest, but their honesty is based upon a completely different value system and experiences than ours. They no longer understand "old fashioned" concepts like duty, honor, and country in the same ways we do. They certainly don't appreciate "hierarchy's", tradition, and rank. And they also don't seem to appreciate the fact that it is okay to use force in your own interests sometimes, and that we don't need the "permission" of others, like the UN, to do so. Having never "experienced" the military, they don't appreciate it or its' culture.
There's a lot to be said for young men and women being given serious responsibilities at a relatively young age and experiencing what it means to be responsible for others as a leader.
On leaders. Your scenario scares the 'h out of me. I get visions of "Spain" and wonder what kind of leaders we'd end up with in a situation like that. And I don't like the odds.
-FJ
Bubba, No rant about your "effective as a rubber with a hole in it NRA".
One day you too will mature enough to understand the principal:
By their fruit shall ye know them.
Now as to Judeo Christian values, Adam had'em. They have stood the test of time for the protection and continuance of society. Progressive values(?) come around every few generations, like the sophists. The young and inexperienced embrace the foolish selfish propaganda, shill for the power hungry and a civilization is destroyed. Like Cambodia under the teen age Kmer Rouge.
You, being a "Republican Faithful" have been hoodwinked by the deceiver who promised Christ the greatest kingdoms of the earth if Christ would fall down and worship him (Lucifer). Bush is no Christian, just another Banking Cartel shill destroying America's national soverienity and subjugating you to the UN and Rockefeller's New World Order.
And like most dogmatic faithful, when you do occasionally stumble over real truth, you get up, hurry away and act like nothing ever happened.
Good luck with your blog.
Samwich
FJ, I wasn't even thinking about Spain when I suggested the 9-11 election scenario. You are right when the real thing happened it was quite chilling.
FJ, I wasn't even thinking about Spain when I suggested the 9-11 election scenario. You are right when the real thing happened it was quite chilling.
Personally I was really disappointed with the reaction of the Spanish people because of San Antonio's heritage. The King of Spain has visited San Antonio and was well received. Now I question the need for friends like Spain. I am concerned for their future potential for disasters worse than the train bombings now that they have shown they will knuckle under if threatened.
Samwich, lunatic, how many times are you going to wish me good luck in one day. You are starting to look like you are shilling for me.
Stop with the good luck and keep coming back. I am still looking for the trolls to show up, but, I really do need a good site lunatic. By the way have I ever mentioned to you that the VA has some really great psych programs?
Bubba, bubba, Bubba, I have been given more "new life", sharing my resources with those who have next to nothing. Just about all they do have is hunger, poverty and want. My new project will reduce lung cancer, rape, poverty, disease, hunger, malnutrition, infant mortality and sorrow.
http://solarcooking.org and Journey to Forever. Google Solar Cookers.
Good luck on your blog is a brush off Bubba. I have more important things to attend to now. Reducing hunger and poverty.
Samwich
Judeo-Christian values are the core of Western civilization--the tripe called muliticulturalism, notwithstanding.
True story here...Last year, we had a friend boarding with us. He was the biggest drunk in town but still our friend, and he was going through some rough times (for once, not of his own making). One evening, absolutely hammered, he passed out in the recliner in front of the TV. He roused for a brief moment during the evening news, when the issue of gay marriage was receiving coverage. "It's the death of civilization as we know it!" he proclaimed. Then he fell back into the chair and resumed his stupor.
Bubba, Bubba, Bubba,
In reference to your reply about compromise. Your points are all valid. The Solar Cooker Organization I have joined efforts with is Anti America UN supported and endorsed.
So a pratical reality of compromise here for me is: if I wish to obey Christ and "let there be no poor among you" I must elevate them to my material level, impart of my substance for their sustenance (be charitable and share, not drive them off).
And you have much experience with my opinion of the Second Amendment and the Banking Cartel's Unconstitutional Government.
So I must decide, do I help those who have so little, (as ye have done it unto the least of these thy bretheren, ye have done it unto me) or do I ignore them and their plight because I loathe, despise and detest anything left of strict obedience to all of the Constitution, and avoid like poison
all left wing bullshit.
I can fund solar ovens for poor people, beginning my charity at home. My property borders indian land. I can fund solar cookers through an organization that makes sure every penny I donate gets spent on a solar cooker and given to someone poor.
Please look up the solar cooking and solar cookers and see and judge for yourself if those people do not need some form of help.
Samwich
"Good Luck" three times on the same thread is not a brush off, Samwich, it's obsessive compulsive. I hope you keep coming back. Trolls are amusing, but, every blog needs a resident tinfoil hat wearing, conspiracy theorist, lunatic. You are the perfect candidate. Crazy Vietnam Vet living off the land in Idaho, rubbing sticks together for cooking fires, crapping behind sage brush, and yet having the time to play bumper cars on the information highway. Please, dear friend, do keep coming back.
If you keep coming back I will donate for some solar cookers for needy California hippies living off the land and leaving very small vegetarian stools a gentle footprint on the fragile environment.
always on watch, I am a big fan of multiculturalism. We just have to be careful of the definition multiculturalism of others. For example including aberrant sexual behavior as a component of multiculturalism is ludicrous and not acceptable.
Here in San Antonio we celebrate the collision of Hispanic, Germanic, Slavic, Angelic, and other cultures. Think really great Polish Sausage in a flour tortilla with a little salsa.
Bubba, Bubba, Bubba, It's Utah not Idaho and the only thing I'd give California is the bomb big enough to earthquake it into the Pacific (after I pay my ex to move there).
You obviously did not look over the solar cooking sites.
I don't rub sticks together. Bics and a couple of Zippo's do just fine. A freznel lens or magnifying glass works great and by aiming concentrated mirrored sunlight on a small place I can start a fire with just the sunlight. A couple of places claim that they can focus enough sunlight to melt steel. (and we think we're "hot stuff").
I wouldn't give a hippie a handful of organic fertilizer from a dairy farm if I had fifty tons of it piled up in the middle of Haight Ashbury intersection.
I crap in a building called the Tower of Bubba (no kiddin'). The county building inspector calls it an "unusual outhouse" and thought the solar stool dryer was pretty nifty. The county health department didn't like it but couldn't stop me because the law prohibits dumping human waste on the surface, not drying it out and burning it. And being in an alpine desert I have more sunny days than I deserve.
What I like most out here is the "solitude is companionable" and I live in peace and quiet.
The Antelope, Deer and Elk have migrated up and the rabbits allow me to share the property with them.
Now Sammies magic crystal ball is glowing and the tinfoil hat is buzzing and staticing electricity so a message is comming in:
The US will be involved in war with Iran by June, the Israelis will do the dirty work rather than the US.
Bush's pals at the Internatinal Monetary Fund have bought all the homes being evacuated in Gaza and will be giving them to the Palestians. 18 billion dollars from the US taxpayer paid for this.
But there is no conspiracy to "rule the world" under the "New World Order" envisioned by the Council on Foriegn Realtions, The Tri Lateral Commission and the Bilderbergs. Speaking of the Tri Lateral Commission, remember Tom Foley (D) Wa and his seven minutes overtime so DNC money could be used to switch two dems from "against" to "for" the Klinton's Anti Gun agenda vote. Foley became the first sitting speaker of the house voted out of office in 138 years and was appointed to Ambassador of Japan. Now he is a member of the Tri Lateral Commission.
And Good luck three tims is not obsessive compulsive, it's yankin' your chain. My money bets you're having a difficult time with me being nice to you on your blog. I am nice to David Horowitz too. The First Amendment secures my right to freely express and the Fifth Amendment secures my right to remain silent (DON'T YOU WISH).
I do promise to look in when I'm in town just like FPM for Ann's Column. The Left should be so lucky to find a flame thrower as credible and truthful as Ann Coulter.
Samwich
bigbubba,
Multicuturalism used to mean learning about other cultures. At least, that's what many of us were led to believe as schools of all levels proposed that such learning was part of being "well rounded." Now the definition encompasses acceptance of all kinds of perversions as valid.
When I study other cultures, I automatically decide if I agree with a particular set of values. Some call that judgmental, I call it discernment.
Enjoying certain elements of other cultures does not mean that one accepts a particular values system. "Take the best, and leave the rest."
BTW, I love ethnic foods. However, for me, it's hot dogs and beer or a soda at a baseball game.
Haven't visited SA since 1970-something; last time I was there, it was either American or Tex-Mex foods to choose from.
What most bothers me about the current version of multiculturalism is the denigration of our own.
PS: Looking forward to Friday's Electronic Bar. Don't know exactly WHAT it is, but I'll check in. I just entered the blogosphere--late last month.
PPS: Falwell is coming under some scrutiny since his recent appointment of the new dean of the seminary. As if Falwell's decision is any of THEIR business. I blogged this a few days ago.
Saw this article today:
"The Jews have a mission: Judeo-Christian values: Part XII"
Dennis Prager
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20050510.shtml
As far as multiculturalism is concerned, the proper policy is to deny all metics (foreigners) the rights of citizens (ie. - vote). Multiculturalism leads to the institutionalization of "silliness" to accommodate the different value systems involved.
And BB, as for the use of a “food” (cookery) metaphor to praise multiculturalism…
From Plato, “Gorgias”…
“Soc. And now I will endeavour to explain to you more clearly what I mean: The soul and body being two, have two arts corresponding to them: there is the art of politics attending on the soul; and another art attending on the body, of which I know no single name, but which may be described as having two divisions, one of them gymnastic, and the other medicine. And in politics there is a legislative part, which answers to gymnastic, as justice does to medicine; and the two parts run into one another, justice having to do with the same subject as legislation, and medicine with the same subject as gymnastic, but with a difference. Now, seeing that there are these four arts, two attending on the body and two on the soul for their highest good; flattery knowing, or rather guessing their natures, has distributed herself into four shams or simulations of them; she puts on the likeness of some one or other of them, and pretends to be that which she simulates, and having no regard for men's highest interests, is ever making pleasure the bait of the unwary, and deceiving them into the belief that she is of the highest value to them. Cookery simulates the disguise of medicine, and pretends to know what food is the best for the body; and if the physician and the cook had to enter into a competition in which children were the judges, or men who had no more sense than children, as to which of them best understands the goodness or badness of food, the physician would be starved to death. A flattery I deem this to be and of an ignoble sort, Polus, for to you I am now addressing myself, because it aims at pleasure without any thought of the best. An art I do not call it, but only an experience, because it is unable to explain or to give a reason of the nature of its own applications. And I do not call any irrational thing an art; but if you dispute my words, I am prepared to argue in defence of them.
Cookery, then, I maintain to be a flattery which takes the form of medicine; and tiring, in like manner, is a flattery which takes the form of gymnastic, and is knavish, false, ignoble, illiberal, working deceitfully by the help of lines, and colours, and enamels, and garments, and making men affect a spurious beauty to the neglect of the true beauty which is given by gymnastic.
I would rather not be tedious, and therefore I will only say, after the manner of the geometricians (for I think that by this time you will be able to follow) -
Attiring (dressing in clothes) : gymnastic :: cookery : medicine; or rather,
attiring : gymnastic :: sophistry : legislation; and
as cookery : medicine :: rhetoric : justice. - And this, I say, is the natural difference between the rhetorician and the sophist, but by reason of their near connection, they are apt to be jumbled up together; neither do they know what to make of themselves, nor do other men know what to make of them. For if the body presided over itself, and were not under the guidance of the soul, and the soul did not discern and discriminate between cookery and medicine, but the body was made the judge of them, and the rule of judgment was the bodily delight which was given by them, then the word of Anaxagoras, that word with which you, friend Polus, are so well acquainted, would prevail far and wide: "Chaos" would come again, and cookery, health, and medicine would mingle in an indiscriminate mass. And now I have told you my notion of rhetoric, which is, in relation to the soul, what cookery is to the body. I may have been inconsistent in making a long speech, when I would not allow you to discourse at length. But I think that I may be excused, because you did not understand me, and could make no use of my answer when I spoke shortly, and therefore I had to enter into explanation. And if I show an equal inability to make use of yours, I hope that you will speak at equal length; but if I am able to understand you, let me have the benefit of your brevity, as is only fair: And now you may do what you please with my answer. “
-FJ
IMO, we can only tolerate two cultures in our society, that of male and female. Let the rest of the population be comprised of metics.
-FJ
AoW,
Prager's article was illuminating, but not very prescriptive. Ethical monotheism sounds like the needed remedy for our Judeo-Christian and secular "values confusion", but we seem to be headed in the direction opposite of what is needed. Instead of converging on ethical monotheism, we seem to be diverging into values chaos caused by values relativism and values nihilism. Seems that people have a mistaken belief that it is the ethical thing to do to not discriminate between values. How do we correct this mistake (or is it not a mistake)?
-FJ
Bubba
The problem with multiculturalism is that it leads to moral relativism. If all cultures are equal then there are no standards.
Slavery and Female foot binding become a variant.
As far as abnormal sexual practices
the problem is why do we need to discuss them at all. Do what you want and please do not let me know ? We make too much of a big deal over this subject.
So, beakerkin....
Incest is best, and the government should keep their nose out of it?
Pederasts, start your engines. Procure your catamite today!
The age of consent is what???18, 16, 14, 12???
-FJ
Beakerkin,
Should sex and marriage be (and please forgive the pun) de-coupled?
-FJ
dumbwich, dumbwich, dumbwich, Southern Idaho-Utah is there a difference? Desolation and Mormons. Good luck on dusting off Bubba and not coming back. Is that you speaking or is that your ward orderly limiting your access to the internet?
Samwich when you don’t encourage off the grid California hippies it leads to trouble. Consider Tom Hayden coming out, donning the ol’ three piece, and plaguing California politics. Don’t be so cavalier about whom you propose to help if you really want to do good for this world.
I did look at your solar cooking site. It seemed to be commercial as opposed to charitable. I don't get it. As for the Tower of Bubba I have heard all about it before from you. My question is, did you get your high tech crap burning crapper plans from Mother Earth? I know they have plans for one. We have really come a long way. When I was a boy, rural Texas high tech was having a two holer.
Samwich please hold all those wonderful thoughts about Cousin George, the trilateral commission, the IMF et al for later on in the week. Try and make it a day when you managed to not take your meds when the nurse came around. That situation always produces some really great verbal mayhem.
always on watch, what people tend to forget when being judgmental about judgmental is exactly what is meant be judgmental. First and foremost the verb, to judge, is to form an opinion, or estimation, after careful consideration. Secondly it is used in the judicial sense or rendering a legal decision. Christians have a strong belief that they are not called to judge (judicial sense only) that which God will judge. We are allowed to be judgmental in the sense of forming an opinion that we do not care for a person, place or situation since in our careful estimation we do not believe that it would be appropriate for us based on our belief system. The derogatory accusation that Judeo-Christian people are judgmental, in a legal sense, is nothing more than a pseudo intellectual, illogical canard meant to confuse the issues. This fallacy about exercising an ethical, moral judgement is helping to grease the cart wheels of the cart that secular humanists are using to take our culture to hell in.
Hot dogs are not ethnic food, sir. Hot dogs, and that whole tube steak thingy, is what we are. My Mexican granddaughter’s Anglo-German heritage is almost invisible, but, her food of choice, at grandpa’s house, is a hot dog. Just like my father and my grandfather’s food of choice, the hot dog. We have many objects of veneration in our South Texas food culture. Sausage is right up there on the list along with home made tortillas and quality salsa.
Even in the seventies something American and Tex-Mex were not the only choices. You just were not introduced to the other options. Demo’s Greek Restaurant was in existence back then. I believe that La Louisianne (sp?)(French) was still in existence. They had an amazing reputation, but have been closed for a while. Paesano’s (Italian) was still in their glory years back then. Then, as now, when Big Bubba is asked where is the best Chinese restaurant in San Antonio, we have been forced to reply, “Los Angeles.” We do have a few amazing Chinese Buffets, but, is that “real” Chinese food?
Tex-Mex restaurants we have in abundance. The key is will you dine at one that specializes in separating touristas from their money or one that actually serves great Tex-Mex. In my estimation Tex-Mex has made our fair city the Mecca of those who want the best of Mexican. What is the difference between Texas and California? Big Bubba’s best advice for Mexican, when in California, is to look for Taco Bell. Whatever you do, do not think that Del Taco is an acceptable substitute. God in all his mercy moved a San Antonio couple to go to West Covina to make converts for our food at “A Taste of Texas.” It is a required stop for Texas glitterati, and Big Bubba, when suffering in Southern California without the sustenance of Tex-Mex comfort food.
Multiculturalism needs to be a democratic process just like everything else. Here in San Antonio various celebrations have discernible components of various cultures. I think that what happens is that the people choose those cultural items that they really enjoy and adopt it. When the political correctness police move in and try and enforce their pseudo intellectual opinions typically is when the trouble starts.
Finally, Farmer John, I understand the relatively huge amounts of sugar used in our processed food through the wisdom of Plato. Do you think that the casual reader will be able to discern the subtleties of the sophist versus the rhetorician? You present, through Plato, yet another enlightenment when pondering our modern political communications. I see the connection with the conundrum of the people not wanting to hear the truth. That being the case it would automatically rule out the sophist seeking political office while leaving the way wide open for the rhetorician. Very interesting.
My nasty little case of ADD prevents lengthy reading of Plato. Your provision of the little easily digestible tidbits is most enlightening. There's another food metaphor.
Was it necessary for Prager’s article to be prescriptive? I don’t think so if you consider his target audience to be anyone who is a believer in Judeo-Christian concepts rather than Jews only. I read the piece as a cautionary tale of what happens when the Judeo-Christian believer turns his back on that system. Often that process of spurning is a direct result of a belief in one’s own superior intellect against God’s Supreme wisdom. That vanity of intellect is not exclusive to the Jews. Judge Greer comes to mind immediately as representative of someone who spurned his Judeo-Christian beliefs to place his moral judgements on a higher plane than his Creator’s.
The cautionary tale is that the Creator got it right the first time with his revelations of His Word and The Ten Commandments to his Chosen People. His revelation is just as important today to Jews, and Christians, as it was thousands of years ago. The hatefulness and evilness of the world are not because of the insufficiency of His Word. It is not because of the failure of His Word.
I always pause to think as evil as this world can be how evil would it be if it were not for the Love of God expressed through the hearts of those who believe in God.
BB,
I could be wrong, but I read both 'sophistry' and 'rhetoric' to be sham substitutes for the true arts of 'legislation' (command)and 'justice', the first of which has its' origin in G_d's Will and the other in His Spirit (just as sophistry is an appeal to reason based on false legislation (man's word/not His) & rhetoric is an appeal to emotion based on false justice (again man's, not His)... but I guess you'd have to be familiar with Plato's "divided line" epistemology to know to "look" for that pattern. And so, no, I don't expect the average reader to comprehend Plato's "subtle" notions, only to perhaps be perplexed enough to wonder what he may mean and be "think" about it.... and maybe one day wish to be inspired to understand Plato more thoroughly. I'm one of those nuts that takes Plato's writings "literally"... like many people take the Bible and so I find myself unable to condense and edit him. Sorry if that it makes it tedious. I do try to make the chunks bite-sized and easy to swallow, but seldom succeed. It's like trying to compose your responses in Iambic pentameter.
And so when it comes to Prager's commentary, I see a direct parallel between those who through sophistry and rhetoric have succumbed to vanity and temptation and seek to place their secular ideas and laws on the same level as His Command, and His Words. But I admit to not using the true arts in so doing. My appeal is to that which is vain and fallible in man, using the arts of sophistry and rhetoric. I do not have what could be called the true Faith, but am one who believes that if one is destined to be a sophist and rhetoritician, then the least he should do is to use it in exhorting others to at least seek concordance with His Truth and that which I believe the true faith represents. For in all my sophistry, I have encountered nothing which could be more beneficial to mankind.
Well, see you in a few days, BB. I've got to take a brief absense from under your bridge for a while. Ciao.
-FJ
F
As I mentioned earlier moral relitivism is the result of multiculturalism. Thus if all cultures are equal honor killings becomes a cultural variant.
Incest is a universal taboo for obvious reasons of inbreeding .Yet
the definition of what is incest varies. In the Middle East Cousin Marriage was not uncommon.
I am like the majority of Americans
favor Civil Unions. Civil Unions would benefit more more heterosexuals. I do not care what the orientation is of the person next door. I would rather people be more discreet about sex.
Cousin marriage, at one time, was very common in this country. My family genealogy studies surprised me in that aspect. Something that was very obvious with my Southern family, from the time of Jamestown, was that when a spouse died there was an almost immediate remarriage. I believe that the reality of life in the New World was that it took two people to handle the family interests of raising children, managing property and providing almost all of the family needs from the land. The pool of available eligible partners would have been severely limited if cousins did not marry. It was simply a necessity of life. This behavior is seen in my Northern family also. When I use the term "my...family" it is not to describe a behavior unique to them. My research proved the behavior to be prevalent in the culture in general.
Samwich, here in the South the fish of preference is the catfish. God is good. He has provided us Southerners with an abundance of catfish. I noticed yesterday the corn (future hush puppies) is growing green and lush here on the edge of town. What more could you need. Throw some greens (it could be dandelions) and some blackeye peas on the plate and you are good to go.
For those who believe that this thread has meandered off course this is a multiculturalism item.
Samwich, yesterday when I went to Austin I skipped the Chinese Buffet for Catfish Parlor. It was great! They had all you can eat, but I know better and opted for the Big Cat Plate which is more than enough. I don't know where it came from, but, it sure was good. It is almost worth a trip to Austin just to go there.
Yesterday I read an article (don't know who, what, where or when so look for it) about what the Muslim practice of cousin marriage was doing to Saudi Arabia. When I saw cousin marriage in the south it was almost always a distant cousin and certainly not a First Cousin.
In Saudi Arabia the custom is to marry a First Cousin. It is thought that the concept developed to strength tribal bonds and loyalty. The thought now is that there are developing genetic difficulties and the practice probably needs to be discourage.
Thinking of 9-11 I wonder if the "genetic problems" are "crazy."
This link does give you an idea of the problem with Saudi "cousin marriage."
BB,
Definitely a "genetic psychosis," a problem which precedes islam. On second thought, maybe a problem which caused islam? Mohammed showed some signs of schizophrenia, I believe.
You wrote at the beginning of this blog entry "Big Bubba is of the evangelical persuasion..."
I thought this might be of interest to you:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20050513.shtml
Neptune aka The Ole Kingfish has this to say:
Bubba, you may remember that I live in the Richmond, Va. area and I have many relatives & friends in the Lynchburg and Roanoke area.
I have never met Falwell, personally, but I know a lot of people that have. They all say that Falwell is a nice guy, off camera. They say that he has a good sense of humor and is not bigoted toward anyone. A long time aquaintance of mine, who I used to work with, grew up in Lynchburg and went to school with Falwell. He tells me that Falwell is fun loving guy and sincere.
While I don't agree 100% with Falwell's fundamentalist interpretation of scripture, I agree with his positions on Abortion & Same-Sex marriage, etc.
Conservatives should be grateful to Jerry Falwell,James Dobson, etc. Due largely to the efforts of Falwell and a handful of others, Religion has gained an important place in the arena of poitical debate. The politicians can no longer pay lip service to religion and then ignore it. Religious conservatives have become like the proverbial 800 lb. Gorilla. If you ignore it, you might get beaten up.
Captain Neptune signing off.
Always on Watch - alas, I am not sure which article you were pointing me too.
Captain Neptune - I have very deep roots in Virginia. My Ancient Planter ancestors came to Virginia, liked it, and decided to stay. I lived in Virginia for the first few years of my life. My distant cousin, Dr. Jeremiah Bell Jeter, was a founder of the Southern Baptist Convention.
Here in San Antonio we have the well known John Hagee. I have heard him preach many times. I like him, but, I am not always in total agreement. Also, unfortunately, he is a divorced man. I know his ex-wife and I am more sympathetic to her than him.
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